Two engaging authors join Alan Gurvey and Kerri Kasem in this Podcast. First, Matt Paknis discusses workplace leadership and how not to behave in his new book "Successful Leaders Aren't Bullies." And during the second half hour, Lucie Greene discusses "Silicon States," which examines the role of big tech in America. Don't miss this insightful and motivational conversation. Tune into Gurvey's Law on Saturdays from 2-3p on KABC-AM 790 TalkRadio and www.kabc.com! Join us on the go at Apple Podcasts and give us a review!